Linn County Sheriff call

Logan M Isaac: The guy was just here and then he took off. Must have something else he's got to take care of. Uh, you're mistaken. UTCR chapters 2 through 13 are excluded from small claims.

Corey: So this um, so I'm I'm happy to send it to a judge. Um, if you want to file it, I'm I'm happy to send it to a judge and they can make a make a decision one way or the other.

Logan M Isaac: I'm copying straight off their earlier motion. That's how they got around me objecting. You can look it up if you like.

Corey: I I don't know the UTCRs off the top of my head, but if you're wanting to submit it, I'm happy to do that.

LMI: But the court handed me papers that are in a you expect a format that disadvantages small claims.

Corey: So, I can't control that. If you

LMI: No, I mean, you handed it to me. Whatever you control like you

Corey: if you want to submit it, you can. If there if you don't want to submit it, there's nothing further that we can do. Don't want to submit that. The the documents that you have here.

LMI: Yeah. I'm saying that you misled me by mistake or by design is out of my hands, but UTCR only applies outside small claims.

Corey: Okay.

LMI: OT UTCR 1.010 subsection 3. It was cited in their earlier motion which I just pulled up.

Corey: Yeah. If if you if you feel that I've made a mistake and you want to submit it to the court, you certainly can.

LMI: Uh is there a sheriff behind me?

Corey: There is.

LMI: Did someone in this office call him?

Deputy: Yes, someone did. They were concerned you're going to escalate.

LMI: Oh, can you come in here? I'd like to be able to hear you.

Deputy: And didn't tell anyone you were videoing.

LMI: No, I did. And I have it on record. And there's also a video right here.

Deputy: It's video only, not audio.

LMI: Okay. And it's recording.

Deputy: Audio. You have to tell someone you're recording. So this You don't have to.

LMI: So, I'm being treated the same way that the defendants are treating me. A police law enforcement was called. You want me to not record even as the state is recording? So, someone left because you thought I was going to What? What do you mean escalate? I want to make sure I I understand this because I'm sick and tired of being treated like a threat when I'm just here to be treated with justice. Could you tell me what escalate means?

Deputy: means get loud instead of just do your business.

LMI: So, is there a state law or a federal law that forbids loud voices? Because I have ADHD. I almost died from bronchitis when I was 3 months old. I don't know why I have a loud voice, but is that is that prohibited? Oh, okay. So, why don't you tell me why you thought escalation included my voice? It was inappropriate. and I need you to apologize or you can actually explain to me and on the record what it was that you thought you were afraid of.

Corey: If you'd like to file this, we are happy to take it. If not, I think our our business is done.

2nd clerk: That's correct, sir. I don't believe he can provide any more assistance for you today.

LMI: I know. I've I've asked for him to explain what he felt needed to have a law enforcement agent called. I'm asking for clarification. Are you not able to provide that to me? No, I'm I'm asking them. Since these public employees are now enacting the law enforcement agent against me, which is in your power, the state of Oregon and the county has activated an enforcement agent.

2nd clerk: So, we've provided all the information we can provide you with right now. So, you we need you to step out in the hallway, be done with your business with the court today.

LMI: I I will as soon

2nd clerk: Because sir, you're you're essentially trying to argue with staff who are literally just trying to assist you with the filings. So that's all the assistance we can give you.

LMI: I'll state again someone activated the law enforcement agency and I've asked for clarification as to why. a word was used, "escalation." And I'm assuming this gentleman used that word. I'm asking for a definition.

Deputy: You're assuming incorrectly. That's Corey, he did not call me.

LMI: Oh, who did?

Deputy: Cory did not call me. Someone else in the office called me.

LMI: Another public employee called you.

Deputy: Can you relax and let you conduct your business and I'm not interfering?

LMI: No, I I don't think that's true because it's a state crime for intimidation. Did someone who called and what was the rationale?

Deputy: Are you referring to Maine being a county employee? Is that what you mean? I don't know why you're brought up.

LMI: Sure. County.

Deputy: I don't know why you brought up state crime.

LMI: Because we're a part of the state. Who is we?

2nd clerk: you and we've previously informed you that you should not be recording.

LMI: Oh, but this one's recording. So why do you guys get to record and I don't?

Deputy: Not audio. That one records video only, which is perfectly fine under state law. Audio is not mine on a public grounds.

LMI: Could you state the law for me? Because this is getting right back to the heart of this. I want the rights that my service secured. Wait, wait, wait, wait before you interrupt me.

Corey: Filing or not filing.

LMI: So that's that's right. And I'll say again, you handed me a paper, a form expecting me to fill it out that cites UTCR that is inapplicable in my case and then

2nd clerk: and he's not in any any position to tell you what's applicable and what's not.

LMI: But then why did he give me the form?

2nd clerk: He'll have a court hearing with the judge. Okay. Which I'm I'm still waiting for with you today is is complete. Wow. So that

LMI: if someone else needs to help me who is not as fragile, I'm happy to speak to another service

2nd clerk: member because you're literally just arguing with everything that is being provided to you today, sir. So that's why the sheriff was called down here.

LMI: No, that can't be true. That's exactly why. Then that is precisely the problem. You can't call a law enforcement agent without it being intimidation. If you don't have cause,

2nd clerk: actually the the sheriff's department wanders through this building all day, every day.

LMI: That's not what he said, though.

2nd clerk: Yeah.

LMI: He said that somebody called because it was escalating.

2nd clerk: That's because they're on the third floor, sir. So, we're done today. We're done providing

LMI: Is the court not taking my filing?

2nd clerk: We will take whatever you'd like to take provide to us today. But what he's saying is he is trying to provide you with additional guidance as to what documents are required with the specific documents that you're trying

LMI: It's not required

2nd clerk: and then you're then fine, whatever without it. That's great. We're done today.

LMI: If you say so. You have much more power than I do. I'm just a private citizen.

Corey: We'll get this filed into the case and we'll get it sent to a judge.

LMI: Do I need to get a new file stamp or are these back? Wait, which ones? Is that the original?

Corey: This is the original.

LMI: Okay. Okay, cool. Thank you. [to the deputy] Did you want to give me your name?

Deputy: See you Logan.

LMI: ANG? Would you like to give me your name or No?

Deputy: No.

LMI: But you knew my name.

Deputy: Yeah.

LMI: Do you want to give me any more information?

Deputy: No.

LMI: Convenient.

Deputy: And Logan, you can call me too. They don't have to call me.

LMI: Okay.

Deputy: Calling isn't intimidation on the person. Intimidating, but it's not the crime of intimidation.

LMI: Right. Which is what's at stake is the feeling.

Deputy: It's actually a racial crime.

LMI: Nope. No, it's not.

Deputy: Oh, you don't, you know the ORS memorized?

LMI: I have I have read it. Yeah. Is it ANG? I didn't say I didn't say. Is that your name or would you not like to give

Deputy: is actually different?

LMI: If you don't want to give me your name, you don't have to. But that's what I've asked for.

Deputy: Yeah. No.

LMI: Okay. Doesn't want to give me his name. County Sheriff who said he was called because somebody thought something was being escalated. The same treatment. Just trying to exercise your rights. And you try you you will be squashed. And it says, just for record, it says right here, property under video surveillance. That grants me permission to record as well, at least video.