📞 from VFW Commander Rick Jauregui

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Rick Jauregui: [00:00:00] The VFW,

Logan M Isaac: uh, and you seem to think that I was trying to do something that you, you are thinking that on your own. I haven't said that. I haven't asked for it.

Rick Jauregui: I, 'cause you have, you have a lot of things going on there that I can't help you with over a phone. 

Logan M Isaac: Yeah, I, yeah, I understand. That's lot of things going on. Feel of I can't 

Rick Jauregui: help you with over the phone. 

Logan M Isaac: Right. That's why I reached out by email. Okay. I said I'd like to have a conversation about what I do and I just said over the phone.

That it, it, that it touches us Where we are in Orange County, there were something like 12 or 15 complaints of this nature. Well, and you know, and I know that [00:01:00] veterans push down pain, they suck it up and drive on. So there's probably even more people than the data discloses that are doing this. 

Rick Jauregui: Well. We have counselors that do that.

We have service officers that guide veterans for assistance from the va. We have never had one person come to us, took 9, 9, 3 4, and complain about job discrimination or being a veteran, had we had, 

Logan M Isaac: and tell me, and I wonder why that is. I wonder why that is. Rick, just because you haven't heard it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

And again, I'll reiterate, I'll reiterate. I'll reiterate, I cannot, I'm not asking VFW to do anything. I want to be able to be honest about my experiences and why I'm looking for a place that actually wants to hear about what I'm, who I am, what I've done. You know, that the value and dignity that I bring to our community as veterans.

But instead, you thought that I was trying to sell a book and you thought it [00:02:00] was inappropriate, and you're bringing it up to me. Now you're reading into an email that like, I don't, I don't understand, or No, I, I'll, I'll say. From what I can gather, my subjective assessment is that VFW, this post is more interested in kind of like the dog and pony shows instead of like getting at the fact that 17 of us are killing ourselves every day.

Like, I get it, I get it. I understand. You just want to, okay. You know, have your events. Morgan, I'm gonna say this isn't, is important to me and you don't want me to actually have. How, and I'll, I'm quoting straight from my email to have a conversation. You don't wanna have a conversation and that's fine.

That's all you need to say, Rick. 

Rick Jauregui: Alright. I'm sorry that you feel that all we do is dog and pony shows, but now that you've said that. I find that very offensive. I find it extremely offensive. I wish you would lower 

Logan M Isaac: your tone. I wish you would lower your voice. 

Rick Jauregui: Logan, as the commander of this post, as the commander of this post, I would tell you to apologize for that [00:03:00] and apologize to the post through me because I found that very offensive.

Logan M Isaac: I'll apologize at the next meeting. How about that? 

Rick Jauregui: You may, you're more than welcome to come to the meetings. 

Logan M Isaac: Okay. Could you clarify what it is you'd like me to apologize for 

Rick Jauregui: referring to our work with the veterans as a dog and pony show? 

Logan M Isaac: I said yeah, the events. Yeah, because you don't want me to actually have a conversation with 

Rick Jauregui: you.

Have nothing to do with it. 

Logan M Isaac: You just said I did. Why would I be apologizing if I didn't have anything to do with that? 

Rick Jauregui: Logan? I'm, you know, I, I'm not gonna talk to you anymore. I, I, I'm gonna end this conversation. We're just going around in circles. 

Logan M Isaac: Hey, sorry. You're just like every other up to do vet who just wants to get by.

I do too. But I have different experiences and needs than you do. 

Rick Jauregui: Okay. You have a nice day. I'm sorry I couldn't help you. 

Logan M Isaac: I wish you wouldn't raise your voice with me, Rick. 

Rick Jauregui: You have no idea. Have a nice day. Take care. 

Logan M Isaac: Careful. I don't want you to an, I don't want to anger you or anything.